Oxford Utd 0 Fleetwood Tn 2 (Ball 33, Sarcevic 52)

Bicester Advertiser: Oxford Utd 0 Fleetwood Tn 2 (Ball 33, Sarcevic 52) Oxford Utd 0 Fleetwood Tn 2 (Ball 33, Sarcevic 52)

OXFORD United dropped out of the Sky Bet League Two play-off places for the first time this season as their poor run continued with a home defeat to Fleetwood Town.

There was little to choose between the sides before David Ball's close range finish on 33 minutes.

Antoni Sarcevic's stunning strike from a free-kick routine doubled the lead just after the break.

United, who suffered a third defeat in a row, struggled to create chances as visiting goalkeeper Chris Maxwell had a comfortable afternoon.

After two away games, it was Gary Waddock's first home game in charge.

The head coach made one change from the 1-0 defeat at Dagenham a week earlier, bringing back Tom Newey after suspension.

David Hunt reverted to right back as Matt Bevans dropped out.

Neither side was able to gain an upper hand in a tight opening half hour.

But Fleetwood, still in the hunt for automatic promotion, looked the more dangerous when they got into the final third.

Goalkeeper Ryan Clarke had to get down well to keep out a crisp, low drive from Sarcevic.

At the other end, Maxwell was almost caught out by David Connolly's shot on the turn from the edge of the box.

The Cod Army goalkeeper quickly readjusted to save what was United's only shot on target before the break.

There was plenty of effort from the hosts, but they lacked width as Ryan Williams frequently came in off the left flank looking for the ball.

Nathan Pond should have opened the scoring for the visitors on 18 minutes. The centre back rose unmarked to plant a header well wide, punching the turf in frustration.

The even pattern of the game continued until Fleetwood took the lead, just after the half hour mark.

Sarcevic swung in an excellent corner which was not dealt with, allowing Ball to bundle in from close range at the back post.

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David Ball hits home Fleetwood’s first goal as Nathan Pond cheers, leaving Andy Whing and Jake Wright deflated

The striker turned provider five minutes before the break, playing Iain Hume through on goal. The veteran should have made it 2-0, but his shot was too close to Clarke, who saved well.

United needed the interval to come quickly, as they wobbled defensively.

Clarke was called upon again, making a save with his legs to keep out Ball as a quickly-taken free-kick caught the hosts napping.

Half-time gave United an opportunity to regroup, but within seven minutes of the restart they fell further behind.

Josh Morris won a free-kick a yard outside the area, going down between Hunt and Scott Davies.

Fleetwood worked a routine which appeared to give Nicky Wroe, on as a substitute for Andy Whing, time to get out to block, but somehow Sarcevic smashed a shot past him and into the corner of the net.

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Antoni Sarcevic scores Fleetwood’s second goal from a free-kick as Nicky Wroe is too late to block the ball

Waddock's response was instant, replacing Connolly and Deane Smalley with James Constable and Dave Kitson.

It lifted the crowd and United looked more purposeful, without really stretching Fleetwood.

Clarke remained the busier of the two goalkeepers, making a fine stop to keep out the lively Hume after Conor McLaughlin's clever pass.

United enjoyed plenty of possession in the visitors' half during the final half hour.

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James Constable has a shot at goal, minutes after coming on in the second half

Fashioning chances continued to be a real problem, though, to the extent that when Nicky Wroe fired a shot from range off target many home fans rose to applaud.

Kitson also had a header saved late on, but Fleetwood never looked ruffled on the way to boosting their automatic promotion hopes.

For United, who have won just once in ten games, some inspiration is needed urgently.

Oxford Utd: Clarke, Hunt, Raynes, Wright, Newey, Williams, Davies, Whing (Wroe ht), Ruffels, Connolly (Kitson 54), Smalley (Constable 54).

Unused subs: Crocombe, Rigg, Rose, Long.

Fleetwood: Maxwell, McLaughlin, Pond, Roberts, Taylor, Goodall, Blair, Sarcevic, Morris, Hume (Evans 76), Ball (Parkin 84).

Unused subs: Davies, Murdoch, Schumacher, Cresswell, Jordan.

Referee: Mark Heywood (Cheshire).

Attendance: 5,679 (160 visitors).

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5:06pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Beau champ mummy says...

Just back from match pure rubbish it was better under wilder and to think lenagan took months to choose this dead head wad dock out and take lenagan with u
Just back from match pure rubbish it was better under wilder and to think lenagan took months to choose this dead head wad dock out and take lenagan with u Beau champ mummy
  • Score: 21

5:12pm Sat 5 Apr 14

The London Yellows says...

New manager, playing at home, staying in the play off position, chance of promotion, league one football... How much 'inspiration' do you need?!
New manager, playing at home, staying in the play off position, chance of promotion, league one football... How much 'inspiration' do you need?! The London Yellows
  • Score: 13

5:35pm Sat 5 Apr 14

dovepe says...

Beano must feel insulted that Smalley is played and He's on the bench.if I were Him I would move.poss Luton, good support, team on the up.
Beano must feel insulted that Smalley is played and He's on the bench.if I were Him I would move.poss Luton, good support, team on the up. dovepe
  • Score: 20

6:33pm Sat 5 Apr 14

OUFC1983 says...

We literally have no hope remaining for the rest of the season. The players look short on confidence, skill, ability, tactical awareness, everything. Defensively we have gone from being solid to totally shot, and we never look like scoring. Be surprised if we win another game this season. Waddock over to you to try and sort this mess out.
We literally have no hope remaining for the rest of the season. The players look short on confidence, skill, ability, tactical awareness, everything. Defensively we have gone from being solid to totally shot, and we never look like scoring. Be surprised if we win another game this season. Waddock over to you to try and sort this mess out. OUFC1983
  • Score: 22

6:39pm Sat 5 Apr 14

karatavuk says...

8 weeks to find a manager and Lenagan comes up with this clown.
8 weeks to find a manager and Lenagan comes up with this clown. karatavuk
  • Score: 12

7:13pm Sat 5 Apr 14

BigAlBiker says...

Useless, clueless, no ambition, rubbish, hopeless, you name it crap wise and we were it, pure and simple we were terrible all day.

Seventy yes 70 applicants for the "managers" job and this joker continues to pick Smalley, play others out of position and as for inspiration he has none.

Apart from Clarke who basically prevented us from getting hammered by five the rest will be collecting £77 per week job seekers allowance because they are not footballers, I am thinking do speaking to the trade descriptions people as this is fraud.

We will win nothing, so Waddock the new donkey select the kids, Sharma, Marsh, Roberts, Bevans and drop Hunt, Newey and most of the rest, Beano in 20 mins did more than the rest put together, Kitson can retire, Williams tried hard but has to stay on the wing where he can create something.

Season tickets next year, Lenegan is having a laugh, selected matches only if we're playing football, if it stays like this then Oxford City will be the place to be, at least they try, this lot must have eaten to much at Christmas because there slow and unable to pass to a guy wearing yellow.

Absolute tosh.

As I said last week, Mark my words, Waddock is worse than Wilder, Lenegan seems to be on a different planet.
Useless, clueless, no ambition, rubbish, hopeless, you name it crap wise and we were it, pure and simple we were terrible all day. Seventy yes 70 applicants for the "managers" job and this joker continues to pick Smalley, play others out of position and as for inspiration he has none. Apart from Clarke who basically prevented us from getting hammered by five the rest will be collecting £77 per week job seekers allowance because they are not footballers, I am thinking do speaking to the trade descriptions people as this is fraud. We will win nothing, so Waddock the new donkey select the kids, Sharma, Marsh, Roberts, Bevans and drop Hunt, Newey and most of the rest, Beano in 20 mins did more than the rest put together, Kitson can retire, Williams tried hard but has to stay on the wing where he can create something. Season tickets next year, Lenegan is having a laugh, selected matches only if we're playing football, if it stays like this then Oxford City will be the place to be, at least they try, this lot must have eaten to much at Christmas because there slow and unable to pass to a guy wearing yellow. Absolute tosh. As I said last week, Mark my words, Waddock is worse than Wilder, Lenegan seems to be on a different planet. BigAlBiker
  • Score: 19

7:14pm Sat 5 Apr 14

oldun says...

karatavuk wrote:
8 weeks to find a manager and Lenagan comes up with this clown.
Yes - from a field of 70 (IL's mumber) - including a number he contacted.
Were little Wycombe right to sack Waddock ?
[quote][p][bold]karatavuk[/bold] wrote: 8 weeks to find a manager and Lenagan comes up with this clown.[/p][/quote]Yes - from a field of 70 (IL's mumber) - including a number he contacted. Were little Wycombe right to sack Waddock ? oldun
  • Score: 10

7:24pm Sat 5 Apr 14

bigchet says...

although it is early to be critical of waddock i find todays team selection and formation mystifyng. rigg is a left sided wide man and williams right sided to leave rigg out and to play williams in a more central role is beyond belief and then to further compound it by playing smalley in preference to constable the mind boggles.
although it is early to be critical of waddock i find todays team selection and formation mystifyng. rigg is a left sided wide man and williams right sided to leave rigg out and to play williams in a more central role is beyond belief and then to further compound it by playing smalley in preference to constable the mind boggles. bigchet
  • Score: 15

7:25pm Sat 5 Apr 14

WindsorYellow says...

What a load of ****! Look at the teams we have to play in the coming weeks?
We won't win again this season! And we will be below 14th in the table if not lower
What a load of ****! Look at the teams we have to play in the coming weeks? We won't win again this season! And we will be below 14th in the table if not lower WindsorYellow
  • Score: 19

7:34pm Sat 5 Apr 14

william12 says...

The players are not good enough. After this bizarre selection why did he not play Kitson Beano and Connelly from the start we needed to be on the front foot from the start. Wiliams has even decided to give up , so have I season ticket in the bin.
The players are not good enough. After this bizarre selection why did he not play Kitson Beano and Connelly from the start we needed to be on the front foot from the start. Wiliams has even decided to give up , so have I season ticket in the bin. william12
  • Score: 19

7:41pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Harold&Albert says...

Can't really blame Waddock too much as he has the same material to work with - his real test comes close season as he decides who to keep and who t bring in - let's face it this season has gone now. The first 30 mins today were quite lively - yes Fleetwood had the better chances and really should have scored - but thanks to Clarke we were still in it. The real disappointment came after they scored - we were clueless - we did not know what to do. Ball wasn't going to feet - players weren't moving off the ball and they didn't seem to know what colour we were or which way we were going! Sadly in the second half despite having a lot of ball the shot tally was woeful for a home team - no one wanted the ball and no one seemed to try even a speculative shot. Two goals from two set pieces also not good! Bring on next season.
Can't really blame Waddock too much as he has the same material to work with - his real test comes close season as he decides who to keep and who t bring in - let's face it this season has gone now. The first 30 mins today were quite lively - yes Fleetwood had the better chances and really should have scored - but thanks to Clarke we were still in it. The real disappointment came after they scored - we were clueless - we did not know what to do. Ball wasn't going to feet - players weren't moving off the ball and they didn't seem to know what colour we were or which way we were going! Sadly in the second half despite having a lot of ball the shot tally was woeful for a home team - no one wanted the ball and no one seemed to try even a speculative shot. Two goals from two set pieces also not good! Bring on next season. Harold&Albert
  • Score: 2

8:22pm Sat 5 Apr 14

iallan says...

12 wins, 10 draws, and 5 losses under Chris Wilder for 46 points and an automatic promotion place.

3 wins, 5 draws, and 7 losses under Lewis and Waddock for 14 points and a position out of the playoffs.

With essentially the same team.

Maybe we should get Chris back. After all, Northampton are good sports! What's a little tampering and season wrecking among friends!
12 wins, 10 draws, and 5 losses under Chris Wilder for 46 points and an automatic promotion place. 3 wins, 5 draws, and 7 losses under Lewis and Waddock for 14 points and a position out of the playoffs. With essentially the same team. Maybe we should get Chris back. After all, Northampton are good sports! What's a little tampering and season wrecking among friends! iallan
  • Score: 7

8:48pm Sat 5 Apr 14

golfmad86 says...

How can people constantly hate Smalley? He is constantly our best striker, does what he is asked and is just unlucky because the rest of our squad is rubbish! Beano is awful, his misses against Southend said enough and let's be honest was only really good at conference level!


Let's call on all oxford fans to be realistic, we will struggle to make the playoffs, things need to change but the fickleness of our fans of the big fall down the league.
How can people constantly hate Smalley? He is constantly our best striker, does what he is asked and is just unlucky because the rest of our squad is rubbish! Beano is awful, his misses against Southend said enough and let's be honest was only really good at conference level! Let's call on all oxford fans to be realistic, we will struggle to make the playoffs, things need to change but the fickleness of our fans of the big fall down the league. golfmad86
  • Score: -4

8:53pm Sat 5 Apr 14

golfmad86 says...

To finish my comment....... The first fickleness of our fans and fall down the league just seems to be no coincidence and last weeks altercation between players and fans just shows that everything has just gone up in smoke.
To finish my comment....... The first fickleness of our fans and fall down the league just seems to be no coincidence and last weeks altercation between players and fans just shows that everything has just gone up in smoke. golfmad86
  • Score: 4

9:12pm Sat 5 Apr 14

dorsetyellows says...

After chewing a wasp all the way back to the south coast , I need to share my
ANGER and disappointment with true oxford fans . This was another shambles of a display by a team we know can play much better . After my son read the team out to me b4 the game , this immediately took away any postitive thoughts I had us winning today's game . Not only with players out of position and better players on the bench , the team Gary Waddock put out looked as if they couldn't b bothered and made mistake after mistake. After a truly shocking first half display by David hunt , the team returns unchanged for the 2nd half .We didn't have the know how to get behind the fleetwood defence and never looked like scoring . Think we will struggle to keep David Connolly who will soon get fed up playing hoof ball . Please tell me how far this club have moved forward since returning to the football league ? We are being outdone constantly by smaller clubs . For the first time today I felt the
Oxford fans had completely lost heart with what they were watching, and the reception for dean smalley when replaced was harsh but if it had been David hunt I for one would have ran on the pitch and done cartwheels .
After chewing a wasp all the way back to the south coast , I need to share my ANGER and disappointment with true oxford fans . This was another shambles of a display by a team we know can play much better . After my son read the team out to me b4 the game , this immediately took away any postitive thoughts I had us winning today's game . Not only with players out of position and better players on the bench , the team Gary Waddock put out looked as if they couldn't b bothered and made mistake after mistake. After a truly shocking first half display by David hunt , the team returns unchanged for the 2nd half .We didn't have the know how to get behind the fleetwood defence and never looked like scoring . Think we will struggle to keep David Connolly who will soon get fed up playing hoof ball . Please tell me how far this club have moved forward since returning to the football league ? We are being outdone constantly by smaller clubs . For the first time today I felt the Oxford fans had completely lost heart with what they were watching, and the reception for dean smalley when replaced was harsh but if it had been David hunt I for one would have ran on the pitch and done cartwheels . dorsetyellows
  • Score: 15

9:14pm Sat 5 Apr 14

learned says...

golfmad86 wrote:
How can people constantly hate Smalley? He is constantly our best striker, does what he is asked and is just unlucky because the rest of our squad is rubbish! Beano is awful, his misses against Southend said enough and let's be honest was only really good at conference level!


Let's call on all oxford fans to be realistic, we will struggle to make the playoffs, things need to change but the fickleness of our fans of the big fall down the league.
Omg !! This just sums up some Oxford utd supporters !
Smalley our best striker !
What planet are you on ?
He does nothing- doesn't jump in the air - gives up and his work rate is negligible.
I have been watching Utd for many years and Smalley is one of our worst strikers for many many years. He is conference standard at best !
[quote][p][bold]golfmad86[/bold] wrote: How can people constantly hate Smalley? He is constantly our best striker, does what he is asked and is just unlucky because the rest of our squad is rubbish! Beano is awful, his misses against Southend said enough and let's be honest was only really good at conference level! Let's call on all oxford fans to be realistic, we will struggle to make the playoffs, things need to change but the fickleness of our fans of the big fall down the league.[/p][/quote]Omg !! This just sums up some Oxford utd supporters ! Smalley our best striker ! What planet are you on ? He does nothing- doesn't jump in the air - gives up and his work rate is negligible. I have been watching Utd for many years and Smalley is one of our worst strikers for many many years. He is conference standard at best ! learned
  • Score: 2

9:18pm Sat 5 Apr 14

onthebench says...

Well what a fair minded set of supporters many of these previous comments are from! Three games in, no possibility of bringing his own players in, blighted by injuries and he is a total disaster already. The squad and particularly the midfield are simply not good enough so to make the playoffs was always going to be unlikely, but still not impossible. The first 20 minutes today was actually very good. Then we conceded a goal and the players imploded and totally lost all confidence and shape. I do not accept that you can blame Waddock for that. He will sort that out in the close season. We will play much better and far more attractive football next season I feel sure. He IS a very good manager and will prove it given time. My only doubt over this is his insistence on picking Smalley who is so far out of his depth it's embarrasing. So many of the players today couldn't pass to a yellow shirt no matter how they tried. The two full backs had absolute nightmares. Hunts pass rate to a yellow shirt must have been significantly lower than 50%. That loses you games and no manager can legislate for such a poor personal performance from so many players. Especially so when he did not sign those players. I'm massively disappointed, but I'm also staying 100% loyal to the cause. I believe Waddock will sort this out, but sadly maybe not until the close season.
Well what a fair minded set of supporters many of these previous comments are from! Three games in, no possibility of bringing his own players in, blighted by injuries and he is a total disaster already. The squad and particularly the midfield are simply not good enough so to make the playoffs was always going to be unlikely, but still not impossible. The first 20 minutes today was actually very good. Then we conceded a goal and the players imploded and totally lost all confidence and shape. I do not accept that you can blame Waddock for that. He will sort that out in the close season. We will play much better and far more attractive football next season I feel sure. He IS a very good manager and will prove it given time. My only doubt over this is his insistence on picking Smalley who is so far out of his depth it's embarrasing. So many of the players today couldn't pass to a yellow shirt no matter how they tried. The two full backs had absolute nightmares. Hunts pass rate to a yellow shirt must have been significantly lower than 50%. That loses you games and no manager can legislate for such a poor personal performance from so many players. Especially so when he did not sign those players. I'm massively disappointed, but I'm also staying 100% loyal to the cause. I believe Waddock will sort this out, but sadly maybe not until the close season. onthebench
  • Score: 4

9:19pm Sat 5 Apr 14

adlibber says...

Beau champ mummy wrote:
Just back from match pure rubbish it was better under wilder and to think lenagan took months to choose this dead head wad dock out and take lenagan with u
swindon troll still fooling some very stupid ox supporters
[quote][p][bold]Beau champ mummy[/bold] wrote: Just back from match pure rubbish it was better under wilder and to think lenagan took months to choose this dead head wad dock out and take lenagan with u[/p][/quote]swindon troll still fooling some very stupid ox supporters adlibber
  • Score: -2

9:28pm Sat 5 Apr 14

adlibber says...

I wasn't keen on Waddock but accept he needs time however his record of 3 games no goals and 3 defeats already doesn't inspire me. How many managers come in to a new job and start so badly? Lenagan really has to take a large portion of blame for our annual demise. He took too long to select a manager and left Lewis in a post he couldn't manage. We have failed for the third year in a row. The players have become an embarrassment and other than Clarke and the youngsters I don't think any of the rest deserve new contracts. We have become a joke. Smalley is appalling and as gutless as the rest of the team. Lenagan needs to make his mind up what he wants to do with the club because it is falling apart under his watch.
I wasn't keen on Waddock but accept he needs time however his record of 3 games no goals and 3 defeats already doesn't inspire me. How many managers come in to a new job and start so badly? Lenagan really has to take a large portion of blame for our annual demise. He took too long to select a manager and left Lewis in a post he couldn't manage. We have failed for the third year in a row. The players have become an embarrassment and other than Clarke and the youngsters I don't think any of the rest deserve new contracts. We have become a joke. Smalley is appalling and as gutless as the rest of the team. Lenagan needs to make his mind up what he wants to do with the club because it is falling apart under his watch. adlibber
  • Score: -1

9:33pm Sat 5 Apr 14

iallan says...

The club was on its way to promotion under Chris Wilder. The players some of you are berating were good enough under Wilder to have the club in the automatic promotion places. The only thing of consequence that has changed is that Chris Wilder is no longer the Manager. This season is going down the tubes for one reason--the Chairman could not bring himself to give the Manager an additional year on his contract. Who knows why? The only thing I do know is that you don't dump a Manager who has his team on its way to a league title, unless you are not interested in winning one. It will be an expensive lesson for the Chairman, and another season in D-2 for the supporters. I hope I am wrong about the latter!
The club was on its way to promotion under Chris Wilder. The players some of you are berating were good enough under Wilder to have the club in the automatic promotion places. The only thing of consequence that has changed is that Chris Wilder is no longer the Manager. This season is going down the tubes for one reason--the Chairman could not bring himself to give the Manager an additional year on his contract. Who knows why? The only thing I do know is that you don't dump a Manager who has his team on its way to a league title, unless you are not interested in winning one. It will be an expensive lesson for the Chairman, and another season in D-2 for the supporters. I hope I am wrong about the latter! iallan
  • Score: 12

9:48pm Sat 5 Apr 14

dorsetyellows says...

dorsetyellows wrote:
After chewing a wasp all the way back to the south coast , I need to share my
ANGER and disappointment with true oxford fans . This was another shambles of a display by a team we know can play much better . After my son read the team out to me b4 the game , this immediately took away any postitive thoughts I had us winning today's game . Not only with players out of position and better players on the bench , the team Gary Waddock put out looked as if they couldn't b bothered and made mistake after mistake. After a truly shocking first half display by David hunt , the team returns unchanged for the 2nd half .We didn't have the know how to get behind the fleetwood defence and never looked like scoring . Think we will struggle to keep David Connolly who will soon get fed up playing hoof ball . Please tell me how far this club have moved forward since returning to the football league ? We are being outdone constantly by smaller clubs . For the first time today I felt the
Oxford fans had completely lost heart with what they were watching, and the reception for dean smalley when replaced was harsh but if it had been David hunt I for one would have ran on the pitch and done cartwheels .
Sorry , took off our top man Andy whing , for tactical reasons , we'll that worked didn't it ?
[quote][p][bold]dorsetyellows[/bold] wrote: After chewing a wasp all the way back to the south coast , I need to share my ANGER and disappointment with true oxford fans . This was another shambles of a display by a team we know can play much better . After my son read the team out to me b4 the game , this immediately took away any postitive thoughts I had us winning today's game . Not only with players out of position and better players on the bench , the team Gary Waddock put out looked as if they couldn't b bothered and made mistake after mistake. After a truly shocking first half display by David hunt , the team returns unchanged for the 2nd half .We didn't have the know how to get behind the fleetwood defence and never looked like scoring . Think we will struggle to keep David Connolly who will soon get fed up playing hoof ball . Please tell me how far this club have moved forward since returning to the football league ? We are being outdone constantly by smaller clubs . For the first time today I felt the Oxford fans had completely lost heart with what they were watching, and the reception for dean smalley when replaced was harsh but if it had been David hunt I for one would have ran on the pitch and done cartwheels .[/p][/quote]Sorry , took off our top man Andy whing , for tactical reasons , we'll that worked didn't it ? dorsetyellows
  • Score: 7

10:02pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Sid Snakey says...

We have completely and utterly self destructed.

We had a perfectly good manager who had kept us in the top 7 since the START OF THE **** SEASON, with an UNBEATEN AWAY RECORD and who simply wanted a contract for next year.

But no. The Muppets wanted him out. They promised us that anyone would be better than Wilder. They told us that Wilder was a "mill-stone around the neck of the club". They promised us a bright future if only we could get rid of that clueless moron. Some went even so far as to withdraw their support from the club and refuse to attend until Wilder left.

Well here we are, Muppets. Out of the play-offs and looking like we won't win another game.

I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think it's the truth:- Whilst we have some fantastic fans, we have too many absolute idiots who inflict damage to this club on a too-regular basis. They are not fans, they are not supporters. I don't know what their problem is exactly, maybe they are stuck in an 80's time warp.

They are the fans who moan and scream at the players, who create the tense atmosphere at the stadium, and then wonder why the players looked totally different when playing away from home under Wilder.

They are screaming their frustration now. Why? They got what they wanted!

And cheering today when Smalley was substituted...absolu
tely disgusting...to a player who clearly is terribly low on confidence.

In days gone by I would try and encourage people to stick together, to get behind the players and the manager. But I know I'm wasting my breath. The Muppets have won, they now dominate in terms of the noise they make and the influence of their bile. They hate the players, they hate whoever is in charge. Just read Oldun's and BigAl's posts above.

A club is not the ground, it's not the players or the manager or the Chairman, it's the fans. If I was Ian Lenegan I think I would probably see how this season pans out, then I would spend a couple of days in a dark room thinking about the sunk cost fallacy.
We have completely and utterly self destructed. We had a perfectly good manager who had kept us in the top 7 since the START OF THE **** SEASON, with an UNBEATEN AWAY RECORD and who simply wanted a contract for next year. But no. The Muppets wanted him out. They promised us that anyone would be better than Wilder. They told us that Wilder was a "mill-stone around the neck of the club". They promised us a bright future if only we could get rid of that clueless moron. Some went even so far as to withdraw their support from the club and refuse to attend until Wilder left. Well here we are, Muppets. Out of the play-offs and looking like we won't win another game. I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think it's the truth:- Whilst we have some fantastic fans, we have too many absolute idiots who inflict damage to this club on a too-regular basis. They are not fans, they are not supporters. I don't know what their problem is exactly, maybe they are stuck in an 80's time warp. They are the fans who moan and scream at the players, who create the tense atmosphere at the stadium, and then wonder why the players looked totally different when playing away from home under Wilder. They are screaming their frustration now. Why? They got what they wanted! And cheering today when Smalley was substituted...absolu tely disgusting...to a player who clearly is terribly low on confidence. In days gone by I would try and encourage people to stick together, to get behind the players and the manager. But I know I'm wasting my breath. The Muppets have won, they now dominate in terms of the noise they make and the influence of their bile. They hate the players, they hate whoever is in charge. Just read Oldun's and BigAl's posts above. A club is not the ground, it's not the players or the manager or the Chairman, it's the fans. If I was Ian Lenegan I think I would probably see how this season pans out, then I would spend a couple of days in a dark room thinking about the sunk cost fallacy. Sid Snakey
  • Score: 18

10:35pm Sat 5 Apr 14

golfmad86 says...

learned wrote:
golfmad86 wrote:
How can people constantly hate Smalley? He is constantly our best striker, does what he is asked and is just unlucky because the rest of our squad is rubbish! Beano is awful, his misses against Southend said enough and let's be honest was only really good at conference level!


Let's call on all oxford fans to be realistic, we will struggle to make the playoffs, things need to change but the fickleness of our fans of the big fall down the league.
Omg !! This just sums up some Oxford utd supporters !
Smalley our best striker !
What planet are you on ?
He does nothing- doesn't jump in the air - gives up and his work rate is negligible.
I have been watching Utd for many years and Smalley is one of our worst strikers for many many years. He is conference standard at best !
O dear o dear, you Saying this sums up oxford fans... Ive played at this level this is why I can make these evaluations of players....

I think it's time that oxford fans along with the person who thinks I know nothing realised the painful truth and that some of our better players are those who are struggling to meet the marks at the moment. When you play in a poor team It's easy to pick on individuals whether correct or not! Remember it's a team game...
[quote][p][bold]learned[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]golfmad86[/bold] wrote: How can people constantly hate Smalley? He is constantly our best striker, does what he is asked and is just unlucky because the rest of our squad is rubbish! Beano is awful, his misses against Southend said enough and let's be honest was only really good at conference level! Let's call on all oxford fans to be realistic, we will struggle to make the playoffs, things need to change but the fickleness of our fans of the big fall down the league.[/p][/quote]Omg !! This just sums up some Oxford utd supporters ! Smalley our best striker ! What planet are you on ? He does nothing- doesn't jump in the air - gives up and his work rate is negligible. I have been watching Utd for many years and Smalley is one of our worst strikers for many many years. He is conference standard at best ![/p][/quote]O dear o dear, you Saying this sums up oxford fans... Ive played at this level this is why I can make these evaluations of players.... I think it's time that oxford fans along with the person who thinks I know nothing realised the painful truth and that some of our better players are those who are struggling to meet the marks at the moment. When you play in a poor team It's easy to pick on individuals whether correct or not! Remember it's a team game... golfmad86
  • Score: 6

11:00pm Sat 5 Apr 14

dorsetyellows says...

Sid Snakey wrote:
We have completely and utterly self destructed.

We had a perfectly good manager who had kept us in the top 7 since the START OF THE **** SEASON, with an UNBEATEN AWAY RECORD and who simply wanted a contract for next year.

But no. The Muppets wanted him out. They promised us that anyone would be better than Wilder. They told us that Wilder was a "mill-stone around the neck of the club". They promised us a bright future if only we could get rid of that clueless moron. Some went even so far as to withdraw their support from the club and refuse to attend until Wilder left.

Well here we are, Muppets. Out of the play-offs and looking like we won't win another game.

I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think it's the truth:- Whilst we have some fantastic fans, we have too many absolute idiots who inflict damage to this club on a too-regular basis. They are not fans, they are not supporters. I don't know what their problem is exactly, maybe they are stuck in an 80's time warp.

They are the fans who moan and scream at the players, who create the tense atmosphere at the stadium, and then wonder why the players looked totally different when playing away from home under Wilder.

They are screaming their frustration now. Why? They got what they wanted!

And cheering today when Smalley was substituted...absolu

tely disgusting...to a player who clearly is terribly low on confidence.

In days gone by I would try and encourage people to stick together, to get behind the players and the manager. But I know I'm wasting my breath. The Muppets have won, they now dominate in terms of the noise they make and the influence of their bile. They hate the players, they hate whoever is in charge. Just read Oldun's and BigAl's posts above.

A club is not the ground, it's not the players or the manager or the Chairman, it's the fans. If I was Ian Lenegan I think I would probably see how this season pans out, then I would spend a couple of days in a dark room thinking about the sunk cost fallacy.
The muppets are just as u say , muppets . Wilder left because the chairman was too slow again in offering him a contract, true some fans got on wilders back .
At no point did this become a majority of supporters . Chris decided a 3.5 year deal at northampton was good for him and his family , and good luck to him.
We are where we are now and that's not much better than the last 3 seasons ,with what I have seen at Bristol , Bury, Newport , Rochdale , Chesterfield , last week and today we are still a average league 2 side and on the odd occasion a good one.

With a 5 year plan to get the club higher up the football league , questions need to be asked about the way the club is being run , especially in the areas
of coaching , scouting and new players .
Now Gary Waddock is going to need all the support from the club and fans to become successful .
[quote][p][bold]Sid Snakey[/bold] wrote: We have completely and utterly self destructed. We had a perfectly good manager who had kept us in the top 7 since the START OF THE **** SEASON, with an UNBEATEN AWAY RECORD and who simply wanted a contract for next year. But no. The Muppets wanted him out. They promised us that anyone would be better than Wilder. They told us that Wilder was a "mill-stone around the neck of the club". They promised us a bright future if only we could get rid of that clueless moron. Some went even so far as to withdraw their support from the club and refuse to attend until Wilder left. Well here we are, Muppets. Out of the play-offs and looking like we won't win another game. I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think it's the truth:- Whilst we have some fantastic fans, we have too many absolute idiots who inflict damage to this club on a too-regular basis. They are not fans, they are not supporters. I don't know what their problem is exactly, maybe they are stuck in an 80's time warp. They are the fans who moan and scream at the players, who create the tense atmosphere at the stadium, and then wonder why the players looked totally different when playing away from home under Wilder. They are screaming their frustration now. Why? They got what they wanted! And cheering today when Smalley was substituted...absolu tely disgusting...to a player who clearly is terribly low on confidence. In days gone by I would try and encourage people to stick together, to get behind the players and the manager. But I know I'm wasting my breath. The Muppets have won, they now dominate in terms of the noise they make and the influence of their bile. They hate the players, they hate whoever is in charge. Just read Oldun's and BigAl's posts above. A club is not the ground, it's not the players or the manager or the Chairman, it's the fans. If I was Ian Lenegan I think I would probably see how this season pans out, then I would spend a couple of days in a dark room thinking about the sunk cost fallacy.[/p][/quote]The muppets are just as u say , muppets . Wilder left because the chairman was too slow again in offering him a contract, true some fans got on wilders back . At no point did this become a majority of supporters . Chris decided a 3.5 year deal at northampton was good for him and his family , and good luck to him. We are where we are now and that's not much better than the last 3 seasons ,with what I have seen at Bristol , Bury, Newport , Rochdale , Chesterfield , last week and today we are still a average league 2 side and on the odd occasion a good one. With a 5 year plan to get the club higher up the football league , questions need to be asked about the way the club is being run , especially in the areas of coaching , scouting and new players . Now Gary Waddock is going to need all the support from the club and fans to become successful . dorsetyellows
  • Score: 8

11:04pm Sat 5 Apr 14

disco80 says...

Sid Snakey wrote:
We have completely and utterly self destructed.

We had a perfectly good manager who had kept us in the top 7 since the START OF THE **** SEASON, with an UNBEATEN AWAY RECORD and who simply wanted a contract for next year.

But no. The Muppets wanted him out. They promised us that anyone would be better than Wilder. They told us that Wilder was a "mill-stone around the neck of the club". They promised us a bright future if only we could get rid of that clueless moron. Some went even so far as to withdraw their support from the club and refuse to attend until Wilder left.

Well here we are, Muppets. Out of the play-offs and looking like we won't win another game.

I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think it's the truth:- Whilst we have some fantastic fans, we have too many absolute idiots who inflict damage to this club on a too-regular basis. They are not fans, they are not supporters. I don't know what their problem is exactly, maybe they are stuck in an 80's time warp.

They are the fans who moan and scream at the players, who create the tense atmosphere at the stadium, and then wonder why the players looked totally different when playing away from home under Wilder.

They are screaming their frustration now. Why? They got what they wanted!

And cheering today when Smalley was substituted...absolu

tely disgusting...to a player who clearly is terribly low on confidence.

In days gone by I would try and encourage people to stick together, to get behind the players and the manager. But I know I'm wasting my breath. The Muppets have won, they now dominate in terms of the noise they make and the influence of their bile. They hate the players, they hate whoever is in charge. Just read Oldun's and BigAl's posts above.

A club is not the ground, it's not the players or the manager or the Chairman, it's the fans. If I was Ian Lenegan I think I would probably see how this season pans out, then I would spend a couple of days in a dark room thinking about the sunk cost fallacy.
You are a fool mate. We were crap with Wilder we LOST 5 home games and was in a false position as were unbeaten away but that was never gonna last.
[quote][p][bold]Sid Snakey[/bold] wrote: We have completely and utterly self destructed. We had a perfectly good manager who had kept us in the top 7 since the START OF THE **** SEASON, with an UNBEATEN AWAY RECORD and who simply wanted a contract for next year. But no. The Muppets wanted him out. They promised us that anyone would be better than Wilder. They told us that Wilder was a "mill-stone around the neck of the club". They promised us a bright future if only we could get rid of that clueless moron. Some went even so far as to withdraw their support from the club and refuse to attend until Wilder left. Well here we are, Muppets. Out of the play-offs and looking like we won't win another game. I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think it's the truth:- Whilst we have some fantastic fans, we have too many absolute idiots who inflict damage to this club on a too-regular basis. They are not fans, they are not supporters. I don't know what their problem is exactly, maybe they are stuck in an 80's time warp. They are the fans who moan and scream at the players, who create the tense atmosphere at the stadium, and then wonder why the players looked totally different when playing away from home under Wilder. They are screaming their frustration now. Why? They got what they wanted! And cheering today when Smalley was substituted...absolu tely disgusting...to a player who clearly is terribly low on confidence. In days gone by I would try and encourage people to stick together, to get behind the players and the manager. But I know I'm wasting my breath. The Muppets have won, they now dominate in terms of the noise they make and the influence of their bile. They hate the players, they hate whoever is in charge. Just read Oldun's and BigAl's posts above. A club is not the ground, it's not the players or the manager or the Chairman, it's the fans. If I was Ian Lenegan I think I would probably see how this season pans out, then I would spend a couple of days in a dark room thinking about the sunk cost fallacy.[/p][/quote]You are a fool mate. We were crap with Wilder we LOST 5 home games and was in a false position as were unbeaten away but that was never gonna last. disco80
  • Score: 4

11:30pm Sat 5 Apr 14

H.J.Harris says...

In the post match interview on Radio Oxford, Gary said there was nothing more he could do once the players were on the pitch - sounds rather disingenuous to me. A coach should be doing just that - coaching, at every point whether in the lead-up to the game, during the match and afterwards. Although the players leave a lot to be desired, he must motivate them.
I would rather him admit that he arrived far too late in the season to turn things round then prepare for August. A lot of work and several new players are going to be needed if we are not to repeat this season.
In the post match interview on Radio Oxford, Gary said there was nothing more he could do once the players were on the pitch - sounds rather disingenuous to me. A coach should be doing just that - coaching, at every point whether in the lead-up to the game, during the match and afterwards. Although the players leave a lot to be desired, he must motivate them. I would rather him admit that he arrived far too late in the season to turn things round then prepare for August. A lot of work and several new players are going to be needed if we are not to repeat this season. H.J.Harris
  • Score: 11

8:05am Sun 6 Apr 14

hawkeye1 says...

learned wrote:
golfmad86 wrote:
How can people constantly hate Smalley? He is constantly our best striker, does what he is asked and is just unlucky because the rest of our squad is rubbish! Beano is awful, his misses against Southend said enough and let's be honest was only really good at conference level!


Let's call on all oxford fans to be realistic, we will struggle to make the playoffs, things need to change but the fickleness of our fans of the big fall down the league.
Omg !! This just sums up some Oxford utd supporters !
Smalley our best striker !
What planet are you on ?
He does nothing- doesn't jump in the air - gives up and his work rate is negligible.
I have been watching Utd for many years and Smalley is one of our worst strikers for many many years. He is conference standard at best !
If Smally is a conferance player then we better keep him as the way we are playing of late, that is where we are headed
[quote][p][bold]learned[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]golfmad86[/bold] wrote: How can people constantly hate Smalley? He is constantly our best striker, does what he is asked and is just unlucky because the rest of our squad is rubbish! Beano is awful, his misses against Southend said enough and let's be honest was only really good at conference level! Let's call on all oxford fans to be realistic, we will struggle to make the playoffs, things need to change but the fickleness of our fans of the big fall down the league.[/p][/quote]Omg !! This just sums up some Oxford utd supporters ! Smalley our best striker ! What planet are you on ? He does nothing- doesn't jump in the air - gives up and his work rate is negligible. I have been watching Utd for many years and Smalley is one of our worst strikers for many many years. He is conference standard at best ![/p][/quote]If Smally is a conferance player then we better keep him as the way we are playing of late, that is where we are headed hawkeye1
  • Score: 5

9:49am Sun 6 Apr 14

mervgould says...

WELL DONE to the Chairman and Manager.

You have succeeded in killing off any chance of promotion which would have mean't more wages more players more expectations, and Mr Chairman you did not want that so from 70 applications you choose a nobody to manage a team not going anywhere.
Plus players getting angry because of remarks from the crowd, that is a joke you don't get angry with the people who pay your wages.

I have a new motto for the management "For get it apathy has arrived"
WELL DONE to the Chairman and Manager. You have succeeded in killing off any chance of promotion which would have mean't more wages more players more expectations, and Mr Chairman you did not want that so from 70 applications you choose a nobody to manage a team not going anywhere. Plus players getting angry because of remarks from the crowd, that is a joke you don't get angry with the people who pay your wages. I have a new motto for the management "For get it apathy has arrived" mervgould
  • Score: 13

10:41am Sun 6 Apr 14

Headington Jim says...

Has anybody considered that CW already knew this is the way the season would run? That his players were playing above their ability and the fall was inevitable. Better to get out while the going was good.
Has anybody considered that CW already knew this is the way the season would run? That his players were playing above their ability and the fall was inevitable. Better to get out while the going was good. Headington Jim
  • Score: 8

10:43am Sun 6 Apr 14

steve mcavoy says...

2012 all over again. At least then the players who couldn't be bothered enough weren't ours (as was usual under the previous manager). I'm not particularly in favour of big clear-outs through the close season especially as we had one last summer but simply waiting for the Development players to be able to establish themselves isn't going to do the job next year. We are going to need an interim plan in place. The Chairman is going to have to demonstrate some clear Leadership starting now; his appointment of Wilder for a year was poor judgement.
2012 all over again. At least then the players who couldn't be bothered enough weren't ours (as was usual under the previous manager). I'm not particularly in favour of big clear-outs through the close season especially as we had one last summer but simply waiting for the Development players to be able to establish themselves isn't going to do the job next year. We are going to need an interim plan in place. The Chairman is going to have to demonstrate some clear Leadership starting now; his appointment of Wilder for a year was poor judgement. steve mcavoy
  • Score: 5

11:56am Sun 6 Apr 14

adlibber says...

onthebench wrote:
Well what a fair minded set of supporters many of these previous comments are from! Three games in, no possibility of bringing his own players in, blighted by injuries and he is a total disaster already. The squad and particularly the midfield are simply not good enough so to make the playoffs was always going to be unlikely, but still not impossible. The first 20 minutes today was actually very good. Then we conceded a goal and the players imploded and totally lost all confidence and shape. I do not accept that you can blame Waddock for that. He will sort that out in the close season. We will play much better and far more attractive football next season I feel sure. He IS a very good manager and will prove it given time. My only doubt over this is his insistence on picking Smalley who is so far out of his depth it's embarrasing. So many of the players today couldn't pass to a yellow shirt no matter how they tried. The two full backs had absolute nightmares. Hunts pass rate to a yellow shirt must have been significantly lower than 50%. That loses you games and no manager can legislate for such a poor personal performance from so many players. Especially so when he did not sign those players. I'm massively disappointed, but I'm also staying 100% loyal to the cause. I believe Waddock will sort this out, but sadly maybe not until the close season.
lot of fair points in you post - but I'm struggling to see where Waddock is a really good manager given he has been out of management for two years until Lenagan signed him. I hope you're right and things change next season but I can't see Lenagan making any significant investment for next season and Waddock isn't a magician that can turn very average players into ones good enough to play in a higher league.
[quote][p][bold]onthebench[/bold] wrote: Well what a fair minded set of supporters many of these previous comments are from! Three games in, no possibility of bringing his own players in, blighted by injuries and he is a total disaster already. The squad and particularly the midfield are simply not good enough so to make the playoffs was always going to be unlikely, but still not impossible. The first 20 minutes today was actually very good. Then we conceded a goal and the players imploded and totally lost all confidence and shape. I do not accept that you can blame Waddock for that. He will sort that out in the close season. We will play much better and far more attractive football next season I feel sure. He IS a very good manager and will prove it given time. My only doubt over this is his insistence on picking Smalley who is so far out of his depth it's embarrasing. So many of the players today couldn't pass to a yellow shirt no matter how they tried. The two full backs had absolute nightmares. Hunts pass rate to a yellow shirt must have been significantly lower than 50%. That loses you games and no manager can legislate for such a poor personal performance from so many players. Especially so when he did not sign those players. I'm massively disappointed, but I'm also staying 100% loyal to the cause. I believe Waddock will sort this out, but sadly maybe not until the close season.[/p][/quote]lot of fair points in you post - but I'm struggling to see where Waddock is a really good manager given he has been out of management for two years until Lenagan signed him. I hope you're right and things change next season but I can't see Lenagan making any significant investment for next season and Waddock isn't a magician that can turn very average players into ones good enough to play in a higher league. adlibber
  • Score: 0

12:30pm Sun 6 Apr 14

adlibber says...

Wot I fink is yew lot are Muppets for fawcing Wilda out becoz he wuld have got us into the champyons leege wifin free years if he woz still here. I fink Wilda's reckord of wun promotion in fyve years shows wot a grate managur he is. Norfamptun will be a premier club in fore years and we will be jellous of them and reagret loosing Wylda. You lot are muppets I am the only wun who knows futball.

The above was a press release from Syd Snakey Sport - so shut up you lot
Wot I fink is yew lot are Muppets for fawcing Wilda out becoz he wuld have got us into the champyons leege wifin free years if he woz still here. I fink Wilda's reckord of wun promotion in fyve years shows wot a grate managur he is. Norfamptun will be a premier club in fore years and we will be jellous of them and reagret loosing Wylda. You lot are muppets I am the only wun who knows futball. The above was a press release from Syd Snakey Sport - so shut up you lot adlibber
  • Score: -7

1:25pm Sun 6 Apr 14

WindsorYellow says...

adlibber wrote:
Wot I fink is yew lot are Muppets for fawcing Wilda out becoz he wuld have got us into the champyons leege wifin free years if he woz still here. I fink Wilda's reckord of wun promotion in fyve years shows wot a grate managur he is. Norfamptun will be a premier club in fore years and we will be jellous of them and reagret loosing Wylda. You lot are muppets I am the only wun who knows futball. The above was a press release from Syd Snakey Sport - so shut up you lot
Who the **** do you think you are? Ali g
[quote][p][bold]adlibber[/bold] wrote: Wot I fink is yew lot are Muppets for fawcing Wilda out becoz he wuld have got us into the champyons leege wifin free years if he woz still here. I fink Wilda's reckord of wun promotion in fyve years shows wot a grate managur he is. Norfamptun will be a premier club in fore years and we will be jellous of them and reagret loosing Wylda. You lot are muppets I am the only wun who knows futball. The above was a press release from Syd Snakey Sport - so shut up you lot[/p][/quote]Who the **** do you think you are? Ali g WindsorYellow
  • Score: 5

1:41pm Sun 6 Apr 14

smirg kcab says...

Glad waddock has changed your season.
Absolute shiit player for the mighty reds.
You all wanted wilder out and this is what you get in return lol.
Coymr
Glad waddock has changed your season. Absolute shiit player for the mighty reds. You all wanted wilder out and this is what you get in return lol. Coymr smirg kcab
  • Score: 1

1:49pm Sun 6 Apr 14

smirg kcab says...

WindsorYellow wrote:
adlibber wrote:
Wot I fink is yew lot are Muppets for fawcing Wilda out becoz he wuld have got us into the champyons leege wifin free years if he woz still here. I fink Wilda's reckord of wun promotion in fyve years shows wot a grate managur he is. Norfamptun will be a premier club in fore years and we will be jellous of them and reagret loosing Wylda. You lot are muppets I am the only wun who knows futball. The above was a press release from Syd Snakey Sport - so shut up you lot
Who the **** do you think you are? Ali g
David ball ex swindon scores the first, just gets better
[quote][p][bold]WindsorYellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]adlibber[/bold] wrote: Wot I fink is yew lot are Muppets for fawcing Wilda out becoz he wuld have got us into the champyons leege wifin free years if he woz still here. I fink Wilda's reckord of wun promotion in fyve years shows wot a grate managur he is. Norfamptun will be a premier club in fore years and we will be jellous of them and reagret loosing Wylda. You lot are muppets I am the only wun who knows futball. The above was a press release from Syd Snakey Sport - so shut up you lot[/p][/quote]Who the **** do you think you are? Ali g[/p][/quote]David ball ex swindon scores the first, just gets better smirg kcab
  • Score: 0

2:09pm Sun 6 Apr 14

swalker260 says...

I have to agree with the comments that point directly at the chairman. In CW we were looking like we may be at least in the play offs. I was not happy with the style of football we were playing under CW but sometimes to bring success you play the style and methods that the players can adapt to.
The chairman, who has invested and spent lot of personal time made his biggest mistake in letting CW go
Perhaps he wanted him out, so by not offering CW a new contract, which meant he did not have to sack him if we did not get promoted, CW had no choice but to resign and OUFC got compensation, great!!
You do not under any circumstances let your manager go when the team is fighting for promotion and then wait weeks to appoint the replacement.
The situation we are in is the Chairman's fault, we have lost all confidence and with the games we have to come I cannot see us in the play offs
It will be ironic if Northampton beat us last game to stay up, if we can't make the play offs I hope CW does
Where OUFC go from here I haven't a clue and neither have the club
I have to agree with the comments that point directly at the chairman. In CW we were looking like we may be at least in the play offs. I was not happy with the style of football we were playing under CW but sometimes to bring success you play the style and methods that the players can adapt to. The chairman, who has invested and spent lot of personal time made his biggest mistake in letting CW go Perhaps he wanted him out, so by not offering CW a new contract, which meant he did not have to sack him if we did not get promoted, CW had no choice but to resign and OUFC got compensation, great!! You do not under any circumstances let your manager go when the team is fighting for promotion and then wait weeks to appoint the replacement. The situation we are in is the Chairman's fault, we have lost all confidence and with the games we have to come I cannot see us in the play offs It will be ironic if Northampton beat us last game to stay up, if we can't make the play offs I hope CW does Where OUFC go from here I haven't a clue and neither have the club swalker260
  • Score: 10

2:29pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Witneyscout1 says...

First goal well not 1 defender was goal side of the player they were marking this is kids stuff things that 6 year olds are taught that we can't even do why was newt bought back thought the kids the last 2 weeks have covered well total shambles ,to early to blame waddock yet but he talked a load of rubbish in his interview after saying the players will be relieved not to be in a play off position is there there not telling us?
First goal well not 1 defender was goal side of the player they were marking this is kids stuff things that 6 year olds are taught that we can't even do why was newt bought back thought the kids the last 2 weeks have covered well total shambles ,to early to blame waddock yet but he talked a load of rubbish in his interview after saying the players will be relieved not to be in a play off position is there there not telling us? Witneyscout1
  • Score: 4

4:07pm Sun 6 Apr 14

BenkiuGuasu says...

Nevermind the first goal - the second goal was the real shambles.

Someone please tell me who our "charger" was for that free kick. He needs to be informed that the role of charger is to run towards the ball, not to the side of the ball. Should have been an easy block.

Not a happy Ox.

We had a good thing in Wilder.
Nevermind the first goal - the second goal was the real shambles. Someone please tell me who our "charger" was for that free kick. He needs to be informed that the role of charger is to run towards the ball, not to the side of the ball. Should have been an easy block. Not a happy Ox. We had a good thing in Wilder. BenkiuGuasu
  • Score: 1

4:33pm Sun 6 Apr 14

remberingthe80s says...

Beau champ mummy wrote:
Just back from match pure rubbish it was better under wilder and to think lenagan took months to choose this dead head wad dock out and take lenagan with u
I see you on you perch again. Only wish you had the view about cw when he was here and guess what we be be in the conference this time next year so with that I think you should keep your arse quite because you speak out of it again
[quote][p][bold]Beau champ mummy[/bold] wrote: Just back from match pure rubbish it was better under wilder and to think lenagan took months to choose this dead head wad dock out and take lenagan with u[/p][/quote]I see you on you perch again. Only wish you had the view about cw when he was here and guess what we be be in the conference this time next year so with that I think you should keep your arse quite because you speak out of it again remberingthe80s
  • Score: -2

4:35pm Sun 6 Apr 14

remberingthe80s says...

BigAlBiker wrote:
Useless, clueless, no ambition, rubbish, hopeless, you name it crap wise and we were it, pure and simple we were terrible all day.

Seventy yes 70 applicants for the "managers" job and this joker continues to pick Smalley, play others out of position and as for inspiration he has none.

Apart from Clarke who basically prevented us from getting hammered by five the rest will be collecting £77 per week job seekers allowance because they are not footballers, I am thinking do speaking to the trade descriptions people as this is fraud.

We will win nothing, so Waddock the new donkey select the kids, Sharma, Marsh, Roberts, Bevans and drop Hunt, Newey and most of the rest, Beano in 20 mins did more than the rest put together, Kitson can retire, Williams tried hard but has to stay on the wing where he can create something.

Season tickets next year, Lenegan is having a laugh, selected matches only if we're playing football, if it stays like this then Oxford City will be the place to be, at least they try, this lot must have eaten to much at Christmas because there slow and unable to pass to a guy wearing yellow.

Absolute tosh.

As I said last week, Mark my words, Waddock is worse than Wilder, Lenegan seems to be on a different planet.
I see you on you perch again. Only wish you had the view about cw when he was here and guess what we be be in the conference this time next year so with that I think you should keep your arse quite because you speak out of it again
[quote][p][bold]BigAlBiker[/bold] wrote: Useless, clueless, no ambition, rubbish, hopeless, you name it crap wise and we were it, pure and simple we were terrible all day. Seventy yes 70 applicants for the "managers" job and this joker continues to pick Smalley, play others out of position and as for inspiration he has none. Apart from Clarke who basically prevented us from getting hammered by five the rest will be collecting £77 per week job seekers allowance because they are not footballers, I am thinking do speaking to the trade descriptions people as this is fraud. We will win nothing, so Waddock the new donkey select the kids, Sharma, Marsh, Roberts, Bevans and drop Hunt, Newey and most of the rest, Beano in 20 mins did more than the rest put together, Kitson can retire, Williams tried hard but has to stay on the wing where he can create something. Season tickets next year, Lenegan is having a laugh, selected matches only if we're playing football, if it stays like this then Oxford City will be the place to be, at least they try, this lot must have eaten to much at Christmas because there slow and unable to pass to a guy wearing yellow. Absolute tosh. As I said last week, Mark my words, Waddock is worse than Wilder, Lenegan seems to be on a different planet.[/p][/quote]I see you on you perch again. Only wish you had the view about cw when he was here and guess what we be be in the conference this time next year so with that I think you should keep your arse quite because you speak out of it again remberingthe80s
  • Score: -1

4:44pm Sun 6 Apr 14

remberingthe80s says...

steve mcavoy wrote:
2012 all over again. At least then the players who couldn't be bothered enough weren't ours (as was usual under the previous manager). I'm not particularly in favour of big clear-outs through the close season especially as we had one last summer but simply waiting for the Development players to be able to establish themselves isn't going to do the job next year. We are going to need an interim plan in place. The Chairman is going to have to demonstrate some clear Leadership starting now; his appointment of Wilder for a year was poor judgement.
Maybe correct but the reasons for this maybe no cash for players
[quote][p][bold]steve mcavoy[/bold] wrote: 2012 all over again. At least then the players who couldn't be bothered enough weren't ours (as was usual under the previous manager). I'm not particularly in favour of big clear-outs through the close season especially as we had one last summer but simply waiting for the Development players to be able to establish themselves isn't going to do the job next year. We are going to need an interim plan in place. The Chairman is going to have to demonstrate some clear Leadership starting now; his appointment of Wilder for a year was poor judgement.[/p][/quote]Maybe correct but the reasons for this maybe no cash for players remberingthe80s
  • Score: -2

5:26pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Chish and Fips says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Glad waddock has changed your season.
Absolute shiit player for the mighty reds.
You all wanted wilder out and this is what you get in return lol.
Coymr
...naughty naughty Grim - leave them to their wallow in their own self inflicted mess - Wilder out Wilder out - oh no - Wllder IN Wilder IN ..
Same ol same ol..... top at Xmas... mid table by Easter.

Have a good week you lot.
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Glad waddock has changed your season. Absolute shiit player for the mighty reds. You all wanted wilder out and this is what you get in return lol. Coymr[/p][/quote]...naughty naughty Grim - leave them to their wallow in their own self inflicted mess - Wilder out Wilder out - oh no - Wllder IN Wilder IN .. Same ol same ol..... top at Xmas... mid table by Easter. Have a good week you lot. Chish and Fips
  • Score: 0

8:15pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Davos P says...

It's really disappointing that Lenagan and a small section of the fans didn't realise that with Wilder we were a team that was gradually progressing. This was a fact that many of us with voices of reason realised. Unfortunately the contract didn't get extended and now we've moved 2 steps back and it will take a whole lot of time to move forward. This is Wilder's team predicated on his vision. Best thing to do now we're in this dire situation is get behind Waddock and wait until he can bring in his own set of players. The players and fans should realise though that there is still everything to play for. They need the self belief but mainly more movement and pace. For long periods yesterday they looked like they didnt want the ball. Come on, loads to play for and we deserve better than the last few performances.
It's really disappointing that Lenagan and a small section of the fans didn't realise that with Wilder we were a team that was gradually progressing. This was a fact that many of us with voices of reason realised. Unfortunately the contract didn't get extended and now we've moved 2 steps back and it will take a whole lot of time to move forward. This is Wilder's team predicated on his vision. Best thing to do now we're in this dire situation is get behind Waddock and wait until he can bring in his own set of players. The players and fans should realise though that there is still everything to play for. They need the self belief but mainly more movement and pace. For long periods yesterday they looked like they didnt want the ball. Come on, loads to play for and we deserve better than the last few performances. Davos P
  • Score: 1

8:19pm Sun 6 Apr 14

william12 says...

dorsetyellows wrote:
dorsetyellows wrote:
After chewing a wasp all the way back to the south coast , I need to share my
ANGER and disappointment with true oxford fans . This was another shambles of a display by a team we know can play much better . After my son read the team out to me b4 the game , this immediately took away any postitive thoughts I had us winning today's game . Not only with players out of position and better players on the bench , the team Gary Waddock put out looked as if they couldn't b bothered and made mistake after mistake. After a truly shocking first half display by David hunt , the team returns unchanged for the 2nd half .We didn't have the know how to get behind the fleetwood defence and never looked like scoring . Think we will struggle to keep David Connolly who will soon get fed up playing hoof ball . Please tell me how far this club have moved forward since returning to the football league ? We are being outdone constantly by smaller clubs . For the first time today I felt the
Oxford fans had completely lost heart with what they were watching, and the reception for dean smalley when replaced was harsh but if it had been David hunt I for one would have ran on the pitch and done cartwheels .
Sorry , took off our top man Andy whing , for tactical reasons , we'll that worked didn't it ?
Wing went off injured
[quote][p][bold]dorsetyellows[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsetyellows[/bold] wrote: After chewing a wasp all the way back to the south coast , I need to share my ANGER and disappointment with true oxford fans . This was another shambles of a display by a team we know can play much better . After my son read the team out to me b4 the game , this immediately took away any postitive thoughts I had us winning today's game . Not only with players out of position and better players on the bench , the team Gary Waddock put out looked as if they couldn't b bothered and made mistake after mistake. After a truly shocking first half display by David hunt , the team returns unchanged for the 2nd half .We didn't have the know how to get behind the fleetwood defence and never looked like scoring . Think we will struggle to keep David Connolly who will soon get fed up playing hoof ball . Please tell me how far this club have moved forward since returning to the football league ? We are being outdone constantly by smaller clubs . For the first time today I felt the Oxford fans had completely lost heart with what they were watching, and the reception for dean smalley when replaced was harsh but if it had been David hunt I for one would have ran on the pitch and done cartwheels .[/p][/quote]Sorry , took off our top man Andy whing , for tactical reasons , we'll that worked didn't it ?[/p][/quote]Wing went off injured william12
  • Score: 1

8:20pm Sun 6 Apr 14

OUFC1983 says...

Although our season has imploded the decision to part from Wilder was the correct one. Our league position was always false because the likes of Rochdale, Fleetwood and Scunthorpe hadn't reached their potential. Our players are suffering a huge lack in confidence now, so it's goodbye play offs and on to the summer rebuild. But don't expect miracles and for us to compete for the league next season. COYY!
Although our season has imploded the decision to part from Wilder was the correct one. Our league position was always false because the likes of Rochdale, Fleetwood and Scunthorpe hadn't reached their potential. Our players are suffering a huge lack in confidence now, so it's goodbye play offs and on to the summer rebuild. But don't expect miracles and for us to compete for the league next season. COYY! OUFC1983
  • Score: 0

10:42pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Sid Snakey says...

So many Muppets saying that under Wilder we were in a "false league position".

Perhaps someone could explain to me what this means. Does it mean that at the end of the season there is a judging panel who look at the league positions and then swap people around if they adjudge their league position to be false?

I guess that must be what they mean. Maybe if we had finished the season in 5th place, then the "False League Position Adjustment Panel" would have convened and moved us down to 8th. Or something.

Or, perhaps a "false league position" is an excuse that people come up with after they have been proven to have been completely wrong, and to have personally and individually contributed to the failure of an entire season.
So many Muppets saying that under Wilder we were in a "false league position". Perhaps someone could explain to me what this means. Does it mean that at the end of the season there is a judging panel who look at the league positions and then swap people around if they adjudge their league position to be false? I guess that must be what they mean. Maybe if we had finished the season in 5th place, then the "False League Position Adjustment Panel" would have convened and moved us down to 8th. Or something. Or, perhaps a "false league position" is an excuse that people come up with after they have been proven to have been completely wrong, and to have personally and individually contributed to the failure of an entire season. Sid Snakey
  • Score: 6

12:39am Mon 7 Apr 14

BenkiuGuasu says...

Sid Snakey wrote:
So many Muppets saying that under Wilder we were in a "false league position".

Perhaps someone could explain to me what this means. Does it mean that at the end of the season there is a judging panel who look at the league positions and then swap people around if they adjudge their league position to be false?

I guess that must be what they mean. Maybe if we had finished the season in 5th place, then the "False League Position Adjustment Panel" would have convened and moved us down to 8th. Or something.

Or, perhaps a "false league position" is an excuse that people come up with after they have been proven to have been completely wrong, and to have personally and individually contributed to the failure of an entire season.
Indeed....

Then they say the fact that the team were unbeaten all season away was also "false because...." Utter crap...this season under Wilder was our most successful season since....since....Ia
n Atkins perhaps once?.....Denis Smith???
[quote][p][bold]Sid Snakey[/bold] wrote: So many Muppets saying that under Wilder we were in a "false league position". Perhaps someone could explain to me what this means. Does it mean that at the end of the season there is a judging panel who look at the league positions and then swap people around if they adjudge their league position to be false? I guess that must be what they mean. Maybe if we had finished the season in 5th place, then the "False League Position Adjustment Panel" would have convened and moved us down to 8th. Or something. Or, perhaps a "false league position" is an excuse that people come up with after they have been proven to have been completely wrong, and to have personally and individually contributed to the failure of an entire season.[/p][/quote]Indeed.... Then they say the fact that the team were unbeaten all season away was also "false because...." Utter crap...this season under Wilder was our most successful season since....since....Ia n Atkins perhaps once?.....Denis Smith??? BenkiuGuasu
  • Score: 1

5:20am Mon 7 Apr 14

Southstandupper says...

Agree with many of the posts, for me we need a good clear out of the deadwood. Waddock has to deal with CW's team but how many other 'new' managers have the same situations and players raise their game. Maybe life under CW and ML was easy and now the players do not want to play for GW or don't like him, perhaps his decision (correctly) to stall contract talks is having an adverse effect on the players, it should not as they are playing for their futures wherever that may be. I believe a major failing is with the size of the squad, it is not big enough to cope with the injuries/ suspensions we had this season we are probably 4 experienced players short. Development team lads need time to blood when the team were playing reasonable football they were good, now we are in this terrible losing streak their confidence has been knocked. Still think we need 7-8 new players (two real strikers, and a creative midfield player among the new additions) who want to win, know how to win, who can play 46 league games a season and most importantly want to play for OUFC next season. I don't think it is fair to blame GW at this time, ok he talks the talk but the reality is he knew we were going nowhere. His time to be judged along with IL is over the Summer with the investment needed to take the club forward and which players GW brings in. By the end of September we will see just how good the team will be!!!!
Agree with many of the posts, for me we need a good clear out of the deadwood. Waddock has to deal with CW's team but how many other 'new' managers have the same situations and players raise their game. Maybe life under CW and ML was easy and now the players do not want to play for GW or don't like him, perhaps his decision (correctly) to stall contract talks is having an adverse effect on the players, it should not as they are playing for their futures wherever that may be. I believe a major failing is with the size of the squad, it is not big enough to cope with the injuries/ suspensions we had this season we are probably 4 experienced players short. Development team lads need time to blood when the team were playing reasonable football they were good, now we are in this terrible losing streak their confidence has been knocked. Still think we need 7-8 new players (two real strikers, and a creative midfield player among the new additions) who want to win, know how to win, who can play 46 league games a season and most importantly want to play for OUFC next season. I don't think it is fair to blame GW at this time, ok he talks the talk but the reality is he knew we were going nowhere. His time to be judged along with IL is over the Summer with the investment needed to take the club forward and which players GW brings in. By the end of September we will see just how good the team will be!!!! Southstandupper
  • Score: 1

8:30am Mon 7 Apr 14

zapatastache@outlook.com says...

Sid Snakey wrote:
So many Muppets saying that under Wilder we were in a "false league position".

Perhaps someone could explain to me what this means. Does it mean that at the end of the season there is a judging panel who look at the league positions and then swap people around if they adjudge their league position to be false?

I guess that must be what they mean. Maybe if we had finished the season in 5th place, then the "False League Position Adjustment Panel" would have convened and moved us down to 8th. Or something.

Or, perhaps a "false league position" is an excuse that people come up with after they have been proven to have been completely wrong, and to have personally and individually contributed to the failure of an entire season.
I suspect the false position panel will sit next to the Blind Faith panel where you are the outstanding candidate for Chairman. This is Wilder's team and they were fading when Wilder left. If Wilder is as good as you say why hasn't he poached a single player from us? And if wilder is such a good manager why are Northampton still in the bottom two after 12 games under his management? If our league position is false why are we not top of the league? I mean surely if fans who concur that we have been in a false position are 'proven wrong' by you (bit vain of you to think like that isn't it?) then you by your own logic are presumably proven right and we are actually 10pts clear at the top and on our way to league one?

You're not really making any sense. Oh and don't forget Wilder has been so amazing that he has kept us in league two for 4 years admirably missing out on play offs two years running.
[quote][p][bold]Sid Snakey[/bold] wrote: So many Muppets saying that under Wilder we were in a "false league position". Perhaps someone could explain to me what this means. Does it mean that at the end of the season there is a judging panel who look at the league positions and then swap people around if they adjudge their league position to be false? I guess that must be what they mean. Maybe if we had finished the season in 5th place, then the "False League Position Adjustment Panel" would have convened and moved us down to 8th. Or something. Or, perhaps a "false league position" is an excuse that people come up with after they have been proven to have been completely wrong, and to have personally and individually contributed to the failure of an entire season.[/p][/quote]I suspect the false position panel will sit next to the Blind Faith panel where you are the outstanding candidate for Chairman. This is Wilder's team and they were fading when Wilder left. If Wilder is as good as you say why hasn't he poached a single player from us? And if wilder is such a good manager why are Northampton still in the bottom two after 12 games under his management? If our league position is false why are we not top of the league? I mean surely if fans who concur that we have been in a false position are 'proven wrong' by you (bit vain of you to think like that isn't it?) then you by your own logic are presumably proven right and we are actually 10pts clear at the top and on our way to league one? You're not really making any sense. Oh and don't forget Wilder has been so amazing that he has kept us in league two for 4 years admirably missing out on play offs two years running. zapatastache@outlook.com
  • Score: 5

9:17am Mon 7 Apr 14

OUFC1983 says...

zapatastache@outlook
.com
wrote:
Sid Snakey wrote:
So many Muppets saying that under Wilder we were in a "false league position".

Perhaps someone could explain to me what this means. Does it mean that at the end of the season there is a judging panel who look at the league positions and then swap people around if they adjudge their league position to be false?

I guess that must be what they mean. Maybe if we had finished the season in 5th place, then the "False League Position Adjustment Panel" would have convened and moved us down to 8th. Or something.

Or, perhaps a "false league position" is an excuse that people come up with after they have been proven to have been completely wrong, and to have personally and individually contributed to the failure of an entire season.
I suspect the false position panel will sit next to the Blind Faith panel where you are the outstanding candidate for Chairman. This is Wilder's team and they were fading when Wilder left. If Wilder is as good as you say why hasn't he poached a single player from us? And if wilder is such a good manager why are Northampton still in the bottom two after 12 games under his management? If our league position is false why are we not top of the league? I mean surely if fans who concur that we have been in a false position are 'proven wrong' by you (bit vain of you to think like that isn't it?) then you by your own logic are presumably proven right and we are actually 10pts clear at the top and on our way to league one?

You're not really making any sense. Oh and don't forget Wilder has been so amazing that he has kept us in league two for 4 years admirably missing out on play offs two years running.
Great response to Sid Snakey. Sid if you honestly believe that Wilder was taking us forward then you are deluded. Wilder had more than enough chances to take us forward and forever failed, and when he tried to hold a gun to Lenegans head to get a contract it failed (again) and he spat his dummy out. We've got to write this season off and move on to the summer and the rebuilding under Waddock.
[quote][p][bold]zapatastache@outlook .com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sid Snakey[/bold] wrote: So many Muppets saying that under Wilder we were in a "false league position". Perhaps someone could explain to me what this means. Does it mean that at the end of the season there is a judging panel who look at the league positions and then swap people around if they adjudge their league position to be false? I guess that must be what they mean. Maybe if we had finished the season in 5th place, then the "False League Position Adjustment Panel" would have convened and moved us down to 8th. Or something. Or, perhaps a "false league position" is an excuse that people come up with after they have been proven to have been completely wrong, and to have personally and individually contributed to the failure of an entire season.[/p][/quote]I suspect the false position panel will sit next to the Blind Faith panel where you are the outstanding candidate for Chairman. This is Wilder's team and they were fading when Wilder left. If Wilder is as good as you say why hasn't he poached a single player from us? And if wilder is such a good manager why are Northampton still in the bottom two after 12 games under his management? If our league position is false why are we not top of the league? I mean surely if fans who concur that we have been in a false position are 'proven wrong' by you (bit vain of you to think like that isn't it?) then you by your own logic are presumably proven right and we are actually 10pts clear at the top and on our way to league one? You're not really making any sense. Oh and don't forget Wilder has been so amazing that he has kept us in league two for 4 years admirably missing out on play offs two years running.[/p][/quote]Great response to Sid Snakey. Sid if you honestly believe that Wilder was taking us forward then you are deluded. Wilder had more than enough chances to take us forward and forever failed, and when he tried to hold a gun to Lenegans head to get a contract it failed (again) and he spat his dummy out. We've got to write this season off and move on to the summer and the rebuilding under Waddock. OUFC1983
  • Score: 1

10:52am Mon 7 Apr 14

Oxokuba says...

New to this site - some good reasoned posts on here apart from the odd fortune tellers predicting Wilder would have got us promoted if he was still here. Really can't fathom that one out and I'm glad he's gone. Lewis and Melville haven't progressed since they became part of the coaching set up and maybe they need to go back to non league and start again-but not with us I hasten to add! Waddock needs time but I hope he has the ability to change tactics when games are slipping away from us. his first 3 games have been poor but he is working with a group of players who haven't had a rocket up their behinds for last 12 games and have got used to losing.

I think play offs are beyond us now and hopefully some new blood next season will give Waddock a chance to change the curse that descends on us every season. I'm baffled by the lack of desire from players out of contract and wonder if they're so delusional that they think a club in a higher league will pick them up for nothing? Half this team are conference standard at best. Deano has been brilliant for us over the years but he seems half the player he was and maybe he needs a fresh start elsewhere. 3 of my mates are not renewing season tickets and they've been fans for at least 15 years. Lenagan needs to come up with something positive for next season or I fear an exodus.
New to this site - some good reasoned posts on here apart from the odd fortune tellers predicting Wilder would have got us promoted if he was still here. Really can't fathom that one out and I'm glad he's gone. Lewis and Melville haven't progressed since they became part of the coaching set up and maybe they need to go back to non league and start again-but not with us I hasten to add! Waddock needs time but I hope he has the ability to change tactics when games are slipping away from us. his first 3 games have been poor but he is working with a group of players who haven't had a rocket up their behinds for last 12 games and have got used to losing. I think play offs are beyond us now and hopefully some new blood next season will give Waddock a chance to change the curse that descends on us every season. I'm baffled by the lack of desire from players out of contract and wonder if they're so delusional that they think a club in a higher league will pick them up for nothing? Half this team are conference standard at best. Deano has been brilliant for us over the years but he seems half the player he was and maybe he needs a fresh start elsewhere. 3 of my mates are not renewing season tickets and they've been fans for at least 15 years. Lenagan needs to come up with something positive for next season or I fear an exodus. Oxokuba
  • Score: 1

11:38am Mon 7 Apr 14

Davos P says...

OUFC1983 wrote:
Although our season has imploded the decision to part from Wilder was the correct one. Our league position was always false because the likes of Rochdale, Fleetwood and Scunthorpe hadn't reached their potential. Our players are suffering a huge lack in confidence now, so it's goodbye play offs and on to the summer rebuild. But don't expect miracles and for us to compete for the league next season. COYY!
Wow! Hopefully our players don't hold the same defeatist attitude!im going to stay positive and hopefully that rubs off on players. Imagine if everyone in the crowd had this negative attitude! No-one would want to play for us!
[quote][p][bold]OUFC1983[/bold] wrote: Although our season has imploded the decision to part from Wilder was the correct one. Our league position was always false because the likes of Rochdale, Fleetwood and Scunthorpe hadn't reached their potential. Our players are suffering a huge lack in confidence now, so it's goodbye play offs and on to the summer rebuild. But don't expect miracles and for us to compete for the league next season. COYY![/p][/quote]Wow! Hopefully our players don't hold the same defeatist attitude!im going to stay positive and hopefully that rubs off on players. Imagine if everyone in the crowd had this negative attitude! No-one would want to play for us! Davos P
  • Score: 0

1:13pm Mon 7 Apr 14

OUFC1983 says...

Davos P wrote:
OUFC1983 wrote:
Although our season has imploded the decision to part from Wilder was the correct one. Our league position was always false because the likes of Rochdale, Fleetwood and Scunthorpe hadn't reached their potential. Our players are suffering a huge lack in confidence now, so it's goodbye play offs and on to the summer rebuild. But don't expect miracles and for us to compete for the league next season. COYY!
Wow! Hopefully our players don't hold the same defeatist attitude!im going to stay positive and hopefully that rubs off on players. Imagine if everyone in the crowd had this negative attitude! No-one would want to play for us!
Lets be honest they do hold the same 'defeatist attitude' because as soon as the goal went in Saturday they looked completely drained. I will cheer and chant for the players until the last game of the season, but I am being a realist and can't see us finishing in the play offs.
[quote][p][bold]Davos P[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OUFC1983[/bold] wrote: Although our season has imploded the decision to part from Wilder was the correct one. Our league position was always false because the likes of Rochdale, Fleetwood and Scunthorpe hadn't reached their potential. Our players are suffering a huge lack in confidence now, so it's goodbye play offs and on to the summer rebuild. But don't expect miracles and for us to compete for the league next season. COYY![/p][/quote]Wow! Hopefully our players don't hold the same defeatist attitude!im going to stay positive and hopefully that rubs off on players. Imagine if everyone in the crowd had this negative attitude! No-one would want to play for us![/p][/quote]Lets be honest they do hold the same 'defeatist attitude' because as soon as the goal went in Saturday they looked completely drained. I will cheer and chant for the players until the last game of the season, but I am being a realist and can't see us finishing in the play offs. OUFC1983
  • Score: 0

2:24pm Mon 7 Apr 14

RocketMan says...

Well, I thought at the start of the season that the U's would make the play off's, given at the start we were without the injury issues, which we had the previous season. My fingers are still crossed. But they are making hard work of it! I never thought we were good enough to reach the automatic places. (Never score enough goals to bury lesser teams out of sight). This is necessary to secure a top spot and have any chance of not coming straight back down again from League one.

You just wonder why they have to play so deep and the mid-field does not thread killer balls to strikers who (with exception of Connolly) are unable to hit the target. How many shots on target in recent games? Even one goal is not enough, because we love to wait for the last ten minutes to let the opposition even things up.

This comes down to lack of quality players. Quality players cost money. We have a few Kitson, Connolly, Jake Wright and some who shine occasionally. Lenagan clearly does not want to pay out for the good ones, he seems to want to rely on youth, which is fine for the long term. But one has to fear for next season or if, ( if?) we got promoted this season.

It seems to me Wilder realised this and since he was offered a longer term deal, you cannot blame him taking it.

So where are we now? With a team showing relegation, rather than promotion form, and 13 players out of contract at the end of the season. I was hoping Waddock would hit the ground running, given his apparent liking for fast tempo attacking football, which we are probably not going to see until the end of the season? Was he the cheap option of the 70 candidates for the job? I hope not! But the rot had set in before he joined and we need a spark or even dynamite to kick those in the team lacking confidence into action!
Well, I thought at the start of the season that the U's would make the play off's, given at the start we were without the injury issues, which we had the previous season. My fingers are still crossed. But they are making hard work of it! I never thought we were good enough to reach the automatic places. (Never score enough goals to bury lesser teams out of sight). This is necessary to secure a top spot and have any chance of not coming straight back down again from League one. You just wonder why they have to play so deep and the mid-field does not thread killer balls to strikers who (with exception of Connolly) are unable to hit the target. How many shots on target in recent games? Even one goal is not enough, because we love to wait for the last ten minutes to let the opposition even things up. This comes down to lack of quality players. Quality players cost money. We have a few Kitson, Connolly, Jake Wright and some who shine occasionally. Lenagan clearly does not want to pay out for the good ones, he seems to want to rely on youth, which is fine for the long term. But one has to fear for next season or if, ( if?) we got promoted this season. It seems to me Wilder realised this and since he was offered a longer term deal, you cannot blame him taking it. So where are we now? With a team showing relegation, rather than promotion form, and 13 players out of contract at the end of the season. I was hoping Waddock would hit the ground running, given his apparent liking for fast tempo attacking football, which we are probably not going to see until the end of the season? Was he the cheap option of the 70 candidates for the job? I hope not! But the rot had set in before he joined and we need a spark or even dynamite to kick those in the team lacking confidence into action! RocketMan
  • Score: 0

5:03pm Mon 7 Apr 14

dovepe says...

Saturday Long in front of back four Kitson & Connolly up front.Beano just behind them.Rose on the right to supply decent crosses.Smalley can stay at home.sorted!
Saturday Long in front of back four Kitson & Connolly up front.Beano just behind them.Rose on the right to supply decent crosses.Smalley can stay at home.sorted! dovepe
  • Score: 1

6:14pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Richard Wickson says...

mervgould wrote:
WELL DONE to the Chairman and Manager.

You have succeeded in killing off any chance of promotion which would have mean't more wages more players more expectations, and Mr Chairman you did not want that so from 70 applications you choose a nobody to manage a team not going anywhere.
Plus players getting angry because of remarks from the crowd, that is a joke you don't get angry with the people who pay your wages.

I have a new motto for the management "For get it apathy has arrived"
Very aptly put. The Chairman has shown beyond reasonable doubt that he isn't interested in and can't afford higher division football, I am well aware it's his money to a large extent but it's also some of our money as ticket buyers that's involved, he isn't spending it wisely! This club has been poorly run since Kassam took us over although I am the first to acknowledge that without him we would probably now be extinct although he did buy in as we were cash poor but property rich and it was for his own ends as opposed to a real interest in the football club. I am not suggesting Lenagan is anywhere near as bad but neither is he good for the future of the club. We do need a new buyer who cares for the club and it's fans and someone who can afford this awful stadium or better still build a new one, as long as we stay at the Kassam the future is bleak. The future of our club is very worrying, we have a board and players who patently do not care about the present or immediate future of this club. Unless the situation is improved quickly then I think the name of Oxford United should be listed as an endangered species!
[quote][p][bold]mervgould[/bold] wrote: WELL DONE to the Chairman and Manager. You have succeeded in killing off any chance of promotion which would have mean't more wages more players more expectations, and Mr Chairman you did not want that so from 70 applications you choose a nobody to manage a team not going anywhere. Plus players getting angry because of remarks from the crowd, that is a joke you don't get angry with the people who pay your wages. I have a new motto for the management "For get it apathy has arrived"[/p][/quote]Very aptly put. The Chairman has shown beyond reasonable doubt that he isn't interested in and can't afford higher division football, I am well aware it's his money to a large extent but it's also some of our money as ticket buyers that's involved, he isn't spending it wisely! This club has been poorly run since Kassam took us over although I am the first to acknowledge that without him we would probably now be extinct although he did buy in as we were cash poor but property rich and it was for his own ends as opposed to a real interest in the football club. I am not suggesting Lenagan is anywhere near as bad but neither is he good for the future of the club. We do need a new buyer who cares for the club and it's fans and someone who can afford this awful stadium or better still build a new one, as long as we stay at the Kassam the future is bleak. The future of our club is very worrying, we have a board and players who patently do not care about the present or immediate future of this club. Unless the situation is improved quickly then I think the name of Oxford United should be listed as an endangered species! Richard Wickson
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